Sector 111 fucked me over..

[ronin]

So since I haven't seen a royality check from Sector111 is some time I sent Shinoo Mapleton a few e-mails and this is the responce I get....from this Email

From: frank profera <roninexige@mac.com>
Date: March 5, 2009 10:46:10 AM PST
To: Shinoo Mapleton <Shinoo@sector111.com>
Subject: Fwd: Royalty Check

So I've talked with Charlie and it seems that you owe me royalty checks for over 35 kits sold since Charlie's contract expired, that's not counting the kits sold before........

Choice of parts or cash as payment........ law suit ? You chose.

Cheers

Frank

From: Shinoo Mapleton <shinoo@sector111.com>
Date: March 5, 2009 8:15:41 PM PST
To: 'frank profera' <roninexige@mac.com>
Subject: FW: Royalty Check

Frank,

Please be advised that I will not be sending any more payments in either cash or parts. As you know, you have made repeated disparaging and untrue statements on the internet concerning me and my company over the past year. As you also know, we have no contractual relationship creating a legal obligation on my part to make any payments. In view of your continuous inappropriate and disparaging remarks and generally insulting behavior, I no longer wish to have any business relationship of any kind with you, and will not be making any voluntary payments in the future.

As for your threats concerning the court of public opinion, I would advise you to refrain from making any further disparaging remarks concerning me or my company. I have thus far chosen not to take legal action with respect to your statements, but if such statements continue or escalate I will have no choice. In addition, should you choose to resolve this matter by means of a lawsuit, you will learn from your attorney that you have no claims against me due to the lack of any contractual obligation on my part to make payments, and I will have no choice but to file a counterclaim for defamation. As you will also discover from your attorney, impugning a person’s business or professional reputation constitutes libel per se.

I trust that this will put the matter to rest and that I will not see any further disparaging statements from you on message boards or elsewhere.

Best regards,
Shinoo Mapleton

Sector 111, LLC
41740 Enterprise Cir. N. Ste 101
Temecula, CA 92590

Ph 951-296-6762 ext 201
Cell 951-551-0900
Fax 951-296-6845


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[MaineLotus]

Does that mean you will not be receiving a check?

[ronin]

Dated Oct. 5,2007........ Sector111 have paid me $2,900 and $3000 to date a total of $5,900.00
Our beal was $100 for each kit sold.....Sector111 are far from keeping their end of the agreement with me...

From: "Shinoo Mapleton" <shinoo@sector111.com>
Date: October 5, 2007 1:41:09 PM PDT
To: <SVRONIN@aol.com>
Subject: Royalty Check


Frank,

Stacy mailed a $2900 check to you. Thank you for your help. We have another 20 orders on our waitlist for the ’06 so expect more $$$$. My car is running great and the tune is really pretty good.

I’m sorry I have not be able to give you more money upfront but that is my financial reality. You will continue to get quarterly checks that should amount to more than you asked for. We have some great ideas that should help gain us even more sales. CARB application will be going in shortly as soon as we pretest. You are not the only one who is spending money. We have already spent significantly to support this kit. If you really feel R&D is the ONLY expense than you are flat wrong. BTW: 66% of our sales have been through our Dealer Network not through Retail.

I will ask you to please stop posting stuff like this:

“Sector111 is years away from putting out an intercooled kit, with no one to do the R$D for them.......”

Comments like these are not fair, nor true. I gave you the canards to thank you for your efforts and spoke to you about our timetable for Stage 2 & 3. We are not beholden to your schedule or budget. Place some trust in my business decisions.

Best regards,
Shinoo Mapleton

Sector 111, LLC
41740 Enterprise Cir. N. Ste 101
Temecula, CA 92590

Ph 951-296-6762 ext 201
Cell 951-551-0900
Fax 951-296-6845

[ronin]

Does that mean you will not be receiving a check?

Yeah I guess Shinoo Mapleton has talked to his legal advisor and they came up with the idea to screw me out of what Sector 111 owe me.

The funny thing is I've spent more than $27,000.00 with them.....

[ronin]

"An oral contract is as good as the paper it's written on." An oral contract is often provable by action taken by one or both parties which is obviously in reliance on the existence of a contract. The other significant difference between oral and written contracts is that the time to sue for breach of an oral contract (the statute of limitations) is sometimes shorter. For example, California's limitation is two years for oral compared to four for written, Connecticut and Washington three for oral rather than six for written, and Georgia four for oral instead of 20 for written."

[ronin]

Quote Shinoo Mapleton/Sector 111 in his most resent Email:

As you also know, we have no contractual relationship creating a legal obligation on my part to make any payments.

"An oral contract is as good as the paper it's written on." An oral contract is often provable by action taken by one or both parties which is obviously in reliance on the existence of a contract. The other significant difference between oral and written contracts is that the time to sue for breach of an oral contract (the statute of limitations) is sometimes shorter. For example, California's limitation is two years for oral compared to four for written."

So I guess the original two checks to me were for fun ?

[ronin]

Yo Shinoo/Sector111 maybe you forgot this : Oct 5 2007

it seems obvious that payment of the royalty fees owed me and the execution of the non-disclosure agreement are two separate matters and are in no way inter-dependent.

As you know, we reached our royalty arrangement back in June, 2007. At that time, you promised to pay me $100 per super-charger kit sold with no term limit. I promised to provide you with my technical support on future stages of the kit to the extent you wished my assistance. There was never any mention of a non-disclosure agreement and that payment of my royalty fees was contingent on any such agreement. Rather, our arrangement was a simple one that called for payment to be made to me for each kit sold at the time Sector made the sale. We shook hands, had diner and we looked forward to a mutually beneficial business relationship. To date, I have not received a single payment.

Shinoo, I very much respect you and consider you a friend -- our friendship is important to me. I also believe that you are a very honorable and trustworthy person. With that in mind, I'm respectfully requesting that you honor your commitment and send the monies owed me. That is really the only fair thing to do at this time.

I look forward to discussing and negotiating the non-disclosure agreement with you at a later date, but only after I receive my initial royalty payment, which is long over due. I believe that it is in our mutual best interests to resolve this matter amicably without the need to resort to legal proceedings. I hope you and Sector 111 share my sentiments in this regard.

Regards,

Frank

Now I recived only two royalty checks shortly after.......

[ronin]

Now if we [Shinoo/Sector111] never had a virbal contract why would you [Shinno/Sector111] bother to send me this Email and threaten to not pay me a royalty if we didn't have a virbal contract between us ?

From: shinoo@sector111.com
To: SVRONIN@aol.com
CC: neil@sector111.com, charlie@finitemonkeys.com
Sent: 7/30/2007 7:28:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: FW: Frank is out of control

Frank,

I just received this email this morning from a friend who is concerned about your on-line ranting. I know we have all spoken with you about this. Frank, you will destroy our reputation AND yours with these constant tirades. I need you to chill out and let us promote the product. In fact, I would like you to apologize to these guys to try to make it right. I’d like you to take a break from the internet forums and let us manage the info.

If you continue to act this irresponsibly, I will not pay you any royalty nor will I continue to promote this kit as the Ronin solution. There is nothing to be gained with your approach.

We are all excited about this kit and will work hard to make it a success. I am asking you to give us the best chance possible to make it the leading solution.

Best regards,
Shinoo

Sector 111, LLC
41740 Enterprise Cir. N. Ste 101
Temecula, CA 92590

Ph 951-296-6762 ext 201
Cell 951-551-0900
Fax 951-296-6845

http://www.sector111.com
http://www.kappasphere.com
http://www.rev111.com


[Jack:]
You've got to rein in Frank. He's going to single-handedly ruin the Sector 111/Ronin SC market by his continual bad mouthing of every other SC product on the market. Now he's on Exige.com poisoning the well.

[ronin]

Oh yeah.

[ronin]

A quote from Shinoo Mapleton/Sectro111 on Lotus Talk:

shinoo
Exigeed!



Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 2,120
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robissimo
I suppose at the very least he had a goal and took the initiative to make things happen. He's still a prick though.

Quote Shinno:
Frank is not interested in winning any popularity contests - he's not good looking enough anyhow...

What Frank has done is assembled a team of people and parts to deliver the first reliable FI system for our cars that uses the stock ECU. His sheer persistance (and beligerance) coupled with his know-how has made it happened. There are plenty of smart and wealthy folk who have tried and failed.

It is a shame that he is so abrasive on-line but he means well. He gets so offended by BS that he loses control and goes wild with the challenges and cursing. Somehow in his twisted way, he is trying to expose the charlatans that exist or have existed in our community. Of course there are plenty of folk who know how to wind him up and do so. I don't agree with his methods and have argued with him and had minimum effect.

Love 'em or hate him, he has accomplished something that no one else has.
__________________
shinoo
sector 111 - tasty bits for your elise & exige

[Manny]

I think you have a case!

And you still send people to them...

[ronin]

I give my opinion to guys for parts, if they can be had somewhere else that's where I'll send them......When someone rips me off I'll tell you guys......so far Shinoo Mapleton/Sector111 has broken a contract with me and ripped me off, now the can say they're sorry and man up, but I doubt the vertically challenged owner of Sector 111 will do so.....

[Darth G-F]

I think it's a shame that Sector doesn't pay what they owe you. I'm in business and my word is worth everything.

However, they are a nice shop with great products. They really have a lot of cool stuff for our cars. They are very easy to do business with and is actually the only vendor that constantly offer new stuff.

BWR and FF for example have been offering the same stuff for years and even the old stuff is close to impossible to get (FF spoiler for example).

Frank I understand why you could be pissed at S111, but for us, average customers, they are fantastic to deal with and offer a complete line of parts for our cars.

I hope you two will come to an agreement. Best of luck!

[ronin]

They have nice stuff because guys like me do the T&D and get screwed by them.... check this out..


Subj: RE: FW: Frank is out of control
Date: 7/30/2007 6:50:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: shinoo@sector111.com
To: SVRONIN@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

I will call you later. You are my friend first and then business partner in this kit. I’m trying to keep the emotions out of this and hope you can as well.

Best regards,
Shinoo

Sector 111, LLC
41740 Enterprise Cir. N. Ste 101
Temecula, CA 92590



Ph 951-296-6762 ext 201
Cell 951-551-0900
Fax 951-296-6845



http://www.sector111.com
http://www.kappasphere.com
http://www.rev111.com


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From: SVRONIN@aol.com [mailto:SVRONIN@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:43 AM
To: shinoo@sector111.com
Subject: Re: FW: Frank is out of control



In a message dated 7/30/2007 7:28:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shinoo@sector111.com writes:

If you continue to act this irresponsibly, I will not pay you any royalty nor will I continue to promote this kit as the Ronin solution. There is nothing to be gained with your approach.

My responce to Shinno:
You have got to be fuckin kidding me .......fine take my name off it and call it the whining Pussies supercharger........charge my card for the canards, then read the fuckin threads in question, I'm talkin ECU's and proof of power and I've been talkin this shit before you decided to take advantage of all the fuckin R$D that I've done, threats don't really cut it with me.....Feel free to get back to me.........






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[ronin]

Business partner in this kit [katana]........uhh..... What a fuckin rip off...


Someone should post this thread link on Lotus Talk so that any new vendors and customers will know how
Shinoo Mapleton/Sector111 do biz...