Easier Brake Bleeding...

[Dave]

You should also trailer your car south of the equator. The counterclockwise Coriolis Effect has a pronounced effect on the bleed. Perform the procedure at the lowest geographical spot you can find (below sea level if possible). This will improve the gravitational pull of the fluid from the reservoir. And lastly, have the local tribal counsel bless the DOT4 prior to opening.

[darksol]

And lastly, have the local tribal counsel bless the DOT4 prior to opening.

I hope you realize that you're responsible for all the coffee I just spat all over my monitor.

[Dave]

Stan (or other monkeys),

I'm getting ready for my winter projects which include fluid bleeding, new SS lines, pads, and repaint the calipers. Any suggestions for doing these all at once/recommended order? Wouldn't think there's anything out of the ordinary, but never hurts to ask. Trying to decide between the Blackwatch/Porterfield R4-S street pads or the R4 race.

http://www.blackwatchracing.com/shopdis ... ucts=elise

--dave

[demarco]

I just bought the Porterfield R4-S pads from S111. I haven't installed them yet so i can't say.

What i really wanted to say is that if you go to Summit racing or other places (just search for Porterfield with google) you can find them cheaper than Sector 111 or Blackwatch racing.

[lotusmark]

While we're on brakes,I've got a pdf on how to rebuild the rear calipers if anybody needs it. Or is there a way to post a pdf here on the website?

[lotusmark]

While we're on brakes,I've got a pdf on how to rebuild the rear calipers if anybody needs it. Or is there a way to post a pdf here on the website?

[Stan]

Stan (or other monkeys),

I'm getting ready for my winter projects which include fluid bleeding, new SS lines, pads, and repaint the calipers. Any suggestions for doing these all at once/recommended order? Wouldn't think there's anything out of the ordinary, but never hurts to ask. Trying to decide between the Blackwatch/Porterfield R4-S street pads or the R4 race.

http://www.blackwatchracing.com/shopdis ... ucts=elise

--dave

* I'd think twice about the R4S. They are very low dusting compared to OE but have much less initial bite. They feel kinda wodden compared to OE which are pretty decent street/track pads. Make sure that their nature meets your expectations.

* Paint rather than powder coat the calipers if you'd like to avoid rebuilding them. Since the o-rings should be yanked for powder coating.

* SS lines are no biggie...the fronts are a pita due to access. Lotsa bleeding after doing this mod.

If it were me I'd use different pads, paint the calipers on the car, and leave the lines alone. Nail the various pedal tweaks for better braking & heel-toe too.

[Dave]

Just did the Stan wheels-on bleed. Took all of 45 minutes without cracking a lugnut.

[Stan]

Bump in case an Estrogen Talker shows up after reading the present brake bleed thread over there. It does not have to be a huge ordeal, it can be pretty basic. Some say that a gravity bleed can be the best of all techniques.

Stan

[edaddy]

Just did the Stan wheels-on bleed. Took all of 45 minutes without cracking a lugnut.

+1 for another great tip from Stan. 45 min, a bottle of fluid, an 11mm wrench, a couple of feet of 1/4 tubing and 2 beers is all Stan's wheels-on bleed required.

Stan, any issues with using the same process on a WRX?

[Stan]

Just did the Stan wheels-on bleed. Took all of 45 minutes without cracking a lugnut.

+1 for another great tip from Stan. 45 min, a bottle of fluid, an 11mm wrench, a couple of feet of 1/4 tubing and 2 beers is all Stan's wheels-on bleed required.

Stan, any issues with using the same process on a WRX?

No, not at all. Cars are more similar than they are different. Once you understand the basic principles it gets pretty simple.

Stan

[insane]

....lay down alongside the car with your feet towards the front. Stick your hand + tool up behind the rear tire....

Ouch! I love my Lotus, but....

[Stan]

....lay down alongside the car with your feet towards the front. Stick your hand + tool up behind the rear tire....

Ouch! I love my Lotus, but....

It's called a "reach around" hehe...

Stan

[Thomas Praetzel]

Stan the Lotus Man,
Because I have the "touring suspension" I found it necessary to not only remove the wheels, calipers and rotors, but also had to remove the windshield, front clam, crash structure, door sills, (that was a bitch, lot of sawzall action) and the instrument cluster. Got all this invaluable information from the more popular channel, was a real blessing. Turns out the bleeding wasn't required, and my car is evidently a hemopheliac, been through 2 gallons of fluid so far. So what the fuck do you know, few thousand experts over there, they've got the useful info, how could a few thousand people be wrong, of course, there's that guy in the White House.

Aloha,
Thomas Praetzel

[Stan]

Stan the Lotus Man,
Because I have the "touring suspension" I found it necessary to not only remove the wheels, calipers and rotors, but also had to remove the windshield, front clam, crash structure, door sills, (that was a bitch, lot of sawzall action) and the instrument cluster. Got all this invaluable information from the more popular channel, was a real blessing. Turns out the bleeding wasn't required, and my car is evidently a hemopheliac, been through 2 gallons of fluid so far. So what the fuck do you know, few thousand experts over there, they've got the useful info, how could a few thousand people be wrong, of course, there's that guy in the White House.
Aloha,Thomas Praetzel

For the best bleed job, drop your Lotus in the mail to Hethel. That way the factory can do it. Ask that Nick Adams personally handle it as he is the chief designer. They can rebuild the car and install a new frame while they are at it. I mean once you prep for an ET style bleed job, it's only one extra hour.

As a back up Colin's son Clive Chapman can be used, but he is hard to reach...try the corner pub or the local strip joint. Colin's widowed wife Hazel should be avoided as she prefers gossiping with the other pensioners...you really don't want to drag her away from her friends or your brake fluid will contain leftover beef stew. It's a shame really, Colin was often overheard commenting "she can suck better than a gas powered hoover". So she has that going for her.

Stan